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godis · Apr 27, 2011, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Sony Playstations network have been hacked and they got access to user accounts.
If you are using the same email address and password in your GW account it could be smart to change it.

Riot Narita · Apr 27, 2011, 11:21 AM // 11:21

Doesn't affect me, but thanks for the heads-up.

kikkerbeer · Apr 27, 2011, 12:01 PM // 12:01

the hackers did not jet dump the acount information i think.
but no evidence of any hack has been released so only sony knows for sure.
but wat i do know is that they were ordered by court to inform the costumers that their private information could have been stolen thats kinda disturbing.

RedDog91 · Apr 27, 2011, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Topic needs to be moved to the off-topic area of the forums as this is not GW related. "General Game Discussion" is defined as "Gather for community discussion on Guild Wars related topics, updates and more for the Prophecies, Factions and Nightfall campaigns." if you look under the forum description.

Snograt · Apr 27, 2011, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Yeah, just going by the title I was prepared to move this to OT, but it can stay here as it is information that can be pertinent to GW account security.

/ontopic - ah, that explains why the PSN has been unreachable all week :/

Painbringer · Apr 27, 2011, 03:16 PM // 15:16

Saw this posted on another site just a forum (Crysis 2) so not confirmed posted by Felix 4006.

Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained.

Lykan · Apr 27, 2011, 03:25 PM // 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikkerbeer

but no evidence of any hack has been released so only sony knows for sure.
but wat i do know is that they were ordered by court to inform the costumers that their private information could have been stolen thats kinda disturbing.

http://us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/#us

TheGizzy · Apr 27, 2011, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painbringer

While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility.

Last night on the CNN website article about this, there were a few comments left by people stating that their CC info had been compromised... that they'd had unusual charges show up in the last day or two for online purchases they did not make. One of the commentators stated that he used a pre-paid card he'd bought specifically for purchases from PSN and had not used it anywhere else... and the remaining $24 he had on the account was used by someone else yesterday.

Now granted, it could have just been people saying that to create drama... but it would give me pause if I had a PSN account. So I hope people are diligent about monitoring any credit cards they registered for PSN. I also don't think it would be a bad idea to do a sweep of changing all passwords for email accounts, gaming accounts, fansite accounts, etc. if you had a PSN account, and changing up your security questions on those sites.

Ghull Ka · Apr 27, 2011, 04:37 PM // 16:37

Yup, and it's spring anyhow, so a round of spring cleaning for your passwords is always healthy. I use the PSN and even though the userid/password I had on it wasn't used by any of my other systems, I took the opportunity and did password changes on almost everything I use.

I made a list of all the systems I have accounts with, and made a three-tier system for creating new passwords for them all. I made:
1. a medium-strength password (used for websites, forums and other non-essentials)
2. a strong password (used for games, email, facebook, steam, bills, and such)
3. an incredibly strong password (used for paypal, bank, and other critical systems)

Password security is fun for everyone! Rather than approaching this incident with anger, hostility, blame or other un-productive attitudes, flip a 180 and use this incident as a chance to do some positive security changes for all of your accounts.

Painbringer · Apr 27, 2011, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghull Ka

Yup, and it's spring anyhow, so a round of spring cleaning for your passwords is always healthy. I use the PSN and even though the userid/password I had on it wasn't used by any of my other systems, I took the opportunity and did password changes on almost everything I use.

I made a list of all the systems I have accounts with, and made a three-tier system for creating new passwords for them all. I made:
1. a medium-strength password (used for websites, forums and other non-essentials)
2. a strong password (used for games, email, facebook, steam, bills, and such)
3. an incredibly strong password (used for paypal, bank, and other critical systems)

Password security is fun for everyone! Rather than approaching this incident with anger, hostility, blame or other un-productive attitudes, flip a 180 and use this incident as a chance to do some positive security changes for all of your accounts.

Not that I am going to break into your account or house or anything but

How do you keep them so you can remember them? Program / Piece of Paper / Tatoo on you dogs Arse?

I guess I have passwords plus at work which is an encrypted software password (safe) it works but pretty basic and have no clue if it is even safe.

Ghull Ka · Apr 27, 2011, 05:38 PM // 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painbringer

Not that I am going to break into your account or house or anything but

How do you keep them so you can remember them? Program / Piece of Paper / Tatoo on you dogs Arse?

Repitition, repetition, repetition.

When you've made a new password, fire up notepad or ms-word or something and type it 20 times in a row, just for practice. Teach your fingers how to remember the password, and your brain will have an easier time of it.

Also, above I mention that I have made three different passwords to use amongst all the systems I use. These three passwords are all different, but similar enough so that my fingers don't have to totally re-learn each of them. Just variations, you know?

Destrudo · Apr 27, 2011, 05:41 PM // 17:41

The fact PSN's account information is apparently stored in plain text and is incredibly easy to access for anyone with developer-level permissions doesn't make this too surprising. People should still keep an eye on their credit cards if they used it with PSN though.

What is truly disappointing however, is how Sony seems to have sat on this for a while before informing people their information is at risk.

Verene · Apr 28, 2011, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Sony claims that they didn't realize personal information was compromised until yesterday or whatever, but I don't believe that for a moment, myself.

All day long at work I was warning people to, if they have a credit card linked to their PSN account, either cancel the card if possible, or just keep a very close watch on their statements for a while.

Thankfully my laziness paid off - I don't ever use my PSP much, so when the card I had linked to my PSN account expired last year, I never got around to updating it.

A class-action lawsuit's been filed already over it.

Zebideedee · Apr 28, 2011, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Sigh, I was gonna buy Resident Evil (Directors) for my psp for when I went to Canada (flight), the Anonymous guys have hurt the gamers and not the the company, what a bunch of twits, although it's still not 100% if they are the cause. They are a bunch of knobs if they are responsible though and allienate fans fast, epic fail to whoever is responsible

Ffs Sony give them some Neo badges for the bedroom walls or something to end the moronity!

psychicgrub · Apr 28, 2011, 05:36 AM // 05:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Painbringer

Not that I am going to break into your account or house or anything but

How do you keep them so you can remember them? Program / Piece of Paper / Tatoo on you dogs Arse?

I guess I have passwords plus at work which is an encrypted software password (safe) it works but pretty basic and have no clue if it is even safe.

There's a nifty little password manager program that I just recently started using. It's free and open source. Just do a google search for keepass. Lots of neat features. Built in password generator, everything is heavily encrypted and up to three levels of security to even be able to get into the program in the first place. Well worth checking out to see if it'll suit your needs. I have around 60 unique passwords and this beats the heck out of my old method of writing them down and hoping I don't lose the piece of paper.

Bellatrixa · Apr 28, 2011, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebideedee

the Anonymous guys have hurt the gamers and not the the company, what a bunch of twits, although it's still not 100% if they are the cause. They are a bunch of knobs if they are responsible though and allienate fans fast, epic fail to whoever is responsible

Hm, this doesn't seem like the work on Anonymous to me, especially considering how many of Anonymous are gamers themselves. Now if it was Habbo Hotel... entirely different ;D

Also, has it been confirmed anywhere that it was just US PSN accounts affected or not?

I pwnd U · Apr 28, 2011, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Wow, PSN is having some issues... Oh well. It's not like they had this happen after one of their execs accidentally tweeted the jailbreak code for the PS3. Wait? What was that? That DID happen? Oh my...

Junato · Apr 28, 2011, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Hey people just a note if you already have a blackberry there is password keeper and its based on the program Keepass http://keepass.info/ or just Google keepass its a program designed to store your usernames, passwords and there is a copy feature to copy your passwords from the program to your account.

As we approach the days where technology security gets outdated we are going to need honest respecting engineers to update these systems. Best way to do so is to weed out the technology savvy narcissist anarchists from working in security firms.

Kula · Apr 30, 2011, 08:17 PM // 20:17

I'm still waiting for an official email from Sony regarding this epic fail in security. But I'm not taking any chances; I already changed all my other passwords and reported the cc I used to buy PSN downloads as lost. Top-up cards ftw.

PlayStation Network Users Reporting Credit Card Fraud - April 30

Playstation Network Hacked - Credit Card Info Exposed? - April 29

Junato · May 01, 2011, 07:08 AM // 07:08

Sometimes I think that there is a big problem with credit companies themselves. As I would imagine if you don't check your statements that often that fraudelent debt will still have to be paid by the consumer.

I think credit card companies need to have better security on their end not just let business' take all the brunt force. Just think about it a credit card has a name, expiry date, numbers and security code, and the consumer can be in Texas and a charge can be applied to a store in shanghai China.

If I were to offer an idea to the Credit Card Companies it would have to be the credit card that you use can only be used in your town unless you speak to the company later on saying you will be somewhere else.